Topic: Wich RRD SUP
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I'm looking for a
Last edited by lewis73 (2010-06-30 15:34:34)
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Wich RRD SUP
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Hi
I'm looking for a "windsurfable" SUP. For sentimental (already own 2 RRD windsurf board) and practical (availability) reason, I've decided to go for a RRD, unless you guys can make me change my mind...
Being a windsurfer, I want the board to be ok in light wind sailing condition, just cruising or wave sailing. Planing capability is a plus but I already have four boards for that (131, 101, 77 and 68 liters). I will use the board for paddling on flat water and occasionnaly in wave when I'm on vacation (Magdelen Island or Est Coast). I would like to be able to take a small child on a paddling tour or sailing along from time to time as well... Seem like a lot to ask for one board!!!
I wanted to buy a Wassup 10' (though I still wonder if it's the right size for me at 180 pounds) but then I saw on youtub the windsurf session on the 9'6''diamond classic... So I would like to know how a diamond classic 10'2" or 10'6"compares on flat water with wassup 10' sailing and padling... In wave i'm pretty sure the Diamond is superior? Anyone by chance has try those boards? Have seen a post with some infos on the wassup 8'5" but nothing so far on the 10'
Does anyone has an idea of the volume of these board? It's pretty hard to figure how stable it will be at my weight with only lenght and width specification...
Any suggestion (or alternative choice) would be appreciate as I don't have the chance to try any board and the sport here is not that popular for now...
Thanks and sorry for my bad english...
Lewis
Last edited by lewis73 (2010-06-30 15:26:01)
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What percentage surfing, wavesailing, flat water cruising?
Buy a board for what you will be doing the most. My opinion is if mostly wavesailing buy the 8'5, if 50% wavesailing, 45% surfing, 5% cruising the 8'5 will still be OK. 60% surfing, 35% wavesailing, 5% cruising the 9'2 classic. If >50% cruising the 10'2 or 10'6 will be much better. If 33% wave sailing, 33% surfing, 33% cruising the 9'6 might be the best.
I haven't tried the 9'6 or 10'6 classic or the 10' WasSUP so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I really liked the 8'5 for wavesailing and surfing and the 10'2 for cruising and easy surfing. I have only sailed the 8'5, but have heard first hand that the 9'6 is also a lot of fun to wave sail.
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Well in my home spot, there's wave or I should say swell only when it's blowing. Proper wave sailing/paddling will be in trip/vacation. So maybe 10'2" or 10'6" would be more adequat for me. Here's a pic from my last sailing session. Would be interesting to try a SUP with a small sail in those swell but I rather be on my Quatro Wave 68!
Thanks for the reply
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If main goal is cruising or taking your child with you, the 10'6 sounds like the right board. Can still windsurf on it, can still surf it if you find a wave, but will be better than any of the other choices for cruising.
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Is there a big difference in stability for paddling between the 10'2" and 10'6" since they are both 29.5" wide? I'm a windsurfer at first so I would like to go with the 10'2" but I'm a little bit worried about the paddling on flat or in waves since I don't have any experience (I weight 180-185 pounds). I only have tried longboard surfing a few times. But I'm a quick learner and rather struggle a bit at first than buying someting too big. Also, 99% of the time I'll be alone on the board, without my child... I guess if I want play it safe I should go with the 10'6"
Last edited by lewis73 (2010-07-04 02:48:10)
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I was also thinking about a Wassup 10' Convertible. A really nice shape. I'm 190 lbs
I think there is no better choice for someone who whant a sup but with windsurf capability, and also a board easy to carry as it is "only" 3 mt long; obviously I would like to test it before considering buying it; http://www.robertoriccidesigns.com/equi … tible.html
I like so much the various straps inserts that allows also a double rear strap and then using a big sail: so I don't understand why on the bottom they've placed a us fin track instead a pratical and strong powerbox (like the one on the center of the board) for using big fins up to 50 cm with sails up to 9,0 m.
I also dislike the FCS side fins instead two strong MT boxes like on my AHD Seal. As far as I can see the FCS side screws go directly on the epoxy of fin head, so they aren't made for frequent fin pulling away or size changing, isn't it? And therefore I've heard that FCS are good for surfing, not for the side pressure of planning windsurfing. Imho
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Finally, I was able to get the volume for those Diamond Boards
9'2 127.14 liters
9'6 134.59 liters
10'2 157.13 liters
10'6 163.86 liters
11'2 180.47 liters
9'2"-9'6" and 10'2"-10'6" are almost identical except for lenght. It' would be interesting to see if there's a lot of difference on the water. For me 10'2" and 10'6" looks quite the same...
I've seen some good report about diamond classic as windsurf board. Very good planing, goes upwind fast. They will glide better than the Wasup in paddling mode accorging to RRD distributor in US (thinner in the tail). So I guess it depend on wether you wan't to do more paddling or windsurfing. For me, with a big sail I have my Carve 131 for windsurfing... So I don't realy need the strap on the SUP
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Hello guys....!
really don,t know why they take a SUP in that wind.
I love SUPing, think its also good fun, but as soon as you can properly plane with them, you can also plane with a 100l FSW board.
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Last edited by Brishen (2010-12-18 00:15:17)
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Brishen wrote:
Hello guys....!
really don,t know why they take a SUP in that wind.
I love SUPing, think its also good fun, but as soon as you can properly plane with them, you can also plane with a 100l FSW board.
Hello Brishen,
I disagree. After many years of 8.0 and 9.0 Freaks for the over mast high glassy waves on the second reef at uppers, but light wind conditions I have been trying to increase the board size to allow me to sail in those idyllic conditions with smaller sails to reduce the stress on my body.
There is no question that bigger (both in sail size and board size) allows earlier planning and lighter wind sailing. Most people say it is a law of diminishing returns, but I have not seen any hard data backing up their position, From my data and spreadsheets, it is a linear relationship as long as one keeps all the variables of board volume, sail size, and fin size proportional.
However, I also have never enjoyed my SUP board with a mast track. I just could not make it work on the big waves. This is why I sold my SOS Big Red and Peter Thommen is building me a custom 165 litre wave board and I have been using his eXp165 in the interval.
Aloha,
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Maybe you tried them, Dolf, but I think there is a Kona that would have satisfied your (sailing) desires. Kona's aren't really an SUP, but I'll posit that people who want to go under sail power are meaning "longboard" and substituting "SUP". You don't strike me as a guy who would intrinsically fall into that, but we all fall into trying what the manufacturers are building. And with SUP's all the rage, it's easy to do. If you can deliver the specs, I suspect a custom board will fill the bill for you.
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Hi Geoff,
Yes, I agree. The line between longboard and SUP has become confused and blurred. I do believe that SUP and longboarding require different designs and an all round board gives you less that excellent at either.
You did understand me correctly and no I did not try the different Kona's for 2 reasons. One: availability in Maui and secondly because I don't want to accecpt any compromise in the longboarding for SUP. That is why I started with the Thommen eXp165. Now to turn my longboard into a big waveboard is a whole new kettle of fish. Reminds me of my first discussions with Jeff on building a 9.0 wave sail after everyone else said it couldn't be done. I hope Peter is half as successful with the board as Jeff was with the Freak 9.0.
Aloha,
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Dolf wrote:
I don't want to accept any compromise in the longboarding for SUP.
By this, do you mean that you want to longboard and SUP? From your other remarks I was under the impression that longboard sailing is your objective.
Understood about Kona availability...but if you get a chance to ride one I suggest you try it. They're not like anything else I've ever been on, and IMO they're not SUP'ers at all. I'm sure a small person or someone who's skilled on an SUP could ride the 11'5", but it's just not what that line of boards if for...
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what about the wassup 8 5 as beginner board wundsurfing for children (... lightwindwave and sup for parents).
anyone tried?
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