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Today's quote from my George Carlin Unsencored calendar: "Does God really have to watch all this shit?"

Well, it never works this way. As anybody got some beliefs, they are always starting to try to convert everybody around. Probably this is part of human nature.

Well, the purpouse of this thread (and of a forum in general) is to exchange opinions so that one can eventually change his mind or learn new things...

So come on you guys... what is god? Anybody can give me a definition?

Why do most of the people need to have a god?

I think it all starts with the incapacity of humans of explaining some things (like how it all started) and of accepting others (like the inifinity of the universe).
So we came up with an easy explanation. There's something "bigger than us"...

ALSO, how about the fear that once dead we're done... that is another major fact that has made us wanting to believe that there's life even after death... we just can't stand the concept that we're done.
Dead. Puff... our atoms will get back in the circle and absolutely nothing of what we were as a person will exist anymore (other than the memories of the people who loved us or in the history books if you did something really good or really bad...).

Is that so hard to accept?

It actually helped me a lot in enjoying every single day of my life! 'Cause I know it a limited amount of time and I don't want to waste it. But I'm weird...

“I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it” Albert Einstein

"I say to mankind, be not curious about God.  For I, who am curious about each, am not curious about God. I hear and behold God in every object, yet understand God not in the least."  Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass

"I believe in God; I just don't trust anyone who works for him."  ~ Author Unknown

Randy,
you are my new god.

I,m for 99% with Cammar,s opninion and vision on live (for once ).
But: Altough a lot of misery comes from religions/ is the excuse to harm others, in my profession as a nurse i have seen it can gives a lot of support to some people when they are very ill (and "believe" me ...when you see me on your bed, you are very ill! ) or dying.
So although i,m not a believer in any religiously or spiritual sense i can be happy for those who can get there support from it as long as they don,t bother other people with it.

Jeroen, good point.
A whole new respect goes to you just like to all nurses and doctors in the world. At least those ones that do their profession with the main aim to help people... not to get rich out of people deseases.

I'm done with Randy. Bob, you're my new god.

For a god you are a bad multi tasker Rand,  and the Cosmos..pfff they found last month that that its a lot smaller as we where thinking, so the job was overrated since the beginning!
good you  quit with it.

Well,...according to the Bible there was nothing but void and then God said there should be light and BLINK it came on and everything was created. I'm not sure how those who wrote the Bible figured it out (maybe some Divine help?), but Genesis sounds an awful lot like the Big Bang to me. Since then, it doesn't seem like there's been a lot of input from God; it seems much more like we're kinda on our own. So I figure he might have got himself blown up. I mean, if some guy (or gal) thinks they're gonna set off the BIG BANG and just walk away from it, that would have to be one BAD dude to pull that off.

Do I think something set off the Big Bang? Well,...the best available data say it happened, though I haven't seen any comments on WHY it happened. It would seem that SOMETHING set it off. To me, "God" setting it off is as good an explanation as any, and I guess I have to live with the uncertainty of never knowing for sure.

Do I think any galaxy-sized thing could survive the Big Bang? Nope. Anything big enough to get hit by the Big Bang and not be destroyed would have to be something really REALLY big. There not being any data for something "beyond" the limits of the Universe, it would seem more than possible that there is nothing. Nothing out there beyond our space-time, and nothing within that would seem to be a credible Creator, leaving us only the evidence of one very, VERY large explosion and then all the passage of time that followed (including what we now call HSM).

Thus, the logical conclusions of Nietzsche and others that God is dead, and of Hyman Rickover who said "I believe you make your own Heaven or Hell right here on Earth".

My idea of Heaven on Earth is a 5.0 warm sunny day. I'll do my best to make good of it. If there is a Heaven's Heaven, I hope they know the meaning of 5.0 there, too.

Good winds.

I finally found the time to watch it. Great movie!!!

Very thought provoking. Here's a random list of thoughts right after the vision:

- how can some humans be so dumb and believe all that shit?
- how can some other humans be so (don't know the right word...)... BAD to kill other humans for their interests?
- if you can watch a movie like that online, maybe there is a chance that the internet is going to save the world from the pervasive mind control exercised by the TV!

Some useful information for that unbelievable setup that was 9/11:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/.
Deep inside me I believe that the truth won't be hidden forever. There will be one day in which it will be revealed.

The more humans I know, the more I like animals...

Dear Grand-daughter: The other day I went up to our local Christian book store and saw a "Honk If You Love JESUS" bumper sticker. I was feeling particularly sassy that day because I had just come from a thrilling choir performance, followed by a thunderous prayer meeting. So, I bought the sticker and put it on my bumper. Boy, am I glad I did after the uplifting experience that followed. I was stopped at a red light at a busy intersection, just lost in thought about the Lord and how good he is, and didn't notice the light change. It is a good thing someone else loves Jesus because if he hadn't honked, I'd never have noticed. I found that lots of people love Jesus! While I was sitting there, the guy behind started honking like crazy, and then he leaned out of his window and screamed, for the love of God! Go! Jesus Christ, GO! What an exuberant cheerleader he was for Jesus! Everyone started honking! I just leaned out my window and started waving and smiling at all those loving people. I even honked my horn a few times to share in the love! There must have been a man from Florida back there because I heard him yelling something about a sunny beach. I saw another guy waving in a funny way with only his middle finger stuck up in the air. I asked my young teenage grandson in the back seat what that meant. He said it was probably a Hawaiian good luck sign or something. Well, I have never met anyone from Hawaii, so I leaned out the window and gave him the good luck sign right back. My grandson burst out laughing. Why even he was enjoying this religious experience!! A couple of the people were so caught up in the joy of the moment that they got out of their cars and started walking towards me. I bet they wanted to pray or ask what church I attended, but this is when I noticed the light had changed. So, I waved at all my brothers and sisters grinning, and drove on through the intersection. I noticed that I was the only car that got through the intersection before the light changed again and felt kind of sad that I had to leave them after all the love we had shared. So I slowed the car down, leaned out the window and gave them all the Hawaiian good luck sign one last time as I drove away. Praise the Lord for such wonderful folks!!

Will write again soon, Love, Grandma

Ben Stein says, "Times are very tough in Iraq and if I was still a speechwriter for the President, like I was for Mr. Nixon and Mr. Ford, this is what I would suggest he say:

My fellow Americans, I have some sobering news. It is my duty, above all, to protect the nation. I sincerely believed I was doing that when I ordered the invasion of Iraq. I still believe Saddam Hussein was the most dangerous man in the world. But it is clear to me now that things are not working out well in Iraq. Despite the incredible confidence, bravery and sacrifice of our men and women on the ground there, Iraq is still a violent, largely out of control nation. We may be making more terrorists than we destroy. "Quagmire" comes sadly to mind. It is clear that change must be made. Therefore, I have this morning accepted Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's resignation with sincere thanks for his service to the nation. He will be replaced by a truly heroic American, Senator John McCain of Arizona.

Despite my best intentions, I made mistakes in Iraq and mine is the responsibility. Good men and women died and hard-earned tax money was lost. Fine young men and women are crippled and disabled, which is a tragedy. It is time for a change. Therefore, I am convening an official, national, bi-partisan, blue ribbon commission composed of Democrats, Independents and Republicans, civilian and military, to start meeting at once and give me a recommendation in one month as to what our Iraq policy should be. All options are on the table. All.

I want to close with this thought. I am just a man. I have no miraculous powers. I have no special pipeline to God. Like all presidents from Jefferson and Lincoln onwards — and believe me, I know I'm not in their league — I make mistakes and sometimes good people die because of them. I am deeply sorry. As we re-examine our policy, I would ask that you all pray for us to make the right decision. May God continue to bless us all. Thank you.