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thanks caleb, had no idea the hot rods are that soft top...they look like carbon pipes coming out of the bag-none of that sexy taper like some masts.  i will try my chinook 100% 460 in the 7.0 and see if any of the Revo sailors need a Sumo.

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252 (edited by calebchinookRD 2018-01-18 11:33:07)

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If you have a C100 I would definitely try that on your SF. Should rig very well compared to Sumo - second only To HSM ULTRA or Kauli mast which are the best, I know Tom worked to get the curves very accurate on those so they are still top pick.

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253 (edited by paulf 2018-01-18 15:25:32)

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i thought the gap between SF 8.0 and 7,0 was too close so i bought a SF 6,7.  Jeff said i would be fine with this rigged on a 460 at my weight(#215) so i bought the C100 460(locally) for the near identical curve numbers and 25 imcs vs 26 of the hot rod.  i like it on the 6,7 with some extra downhaul on my middle board.  will try the mast on 7.0 before i sell the 7.0.. thanks caleb.

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254 (edited by TwoFish 2018-04-06 05:21:31)

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So, six months on, I've still not sorted myself a new flex-top  460 RDM for my SF 7.0. (Thank you by the way to all those who have contributed responses to my original question, or other useful responses).

Buying in the UK, there seem to be a limited number of potentially suitable (flex-top) options for 460 RDMs available, including:

  • The Unifiber 460 RDM Evo 100 Flex-Top. Consensus seems to be that would be a reasonable option.

  • Simmer RDM 8 / 10s; The Unifiber mast selector chart suggest they should match reasonably well, but 'Newfreakuser' reported a less-than-great experience.

  • RRD RDMs. Again, the Unifber chart suggests a match, but I can find no other information on their bend curve or compatibility.

  • Goya RDMs - Again, the chart suggests a match.

  • Chinook RDM 460s . CalebChinookRD reported that despite being nominally Constant Curve, Chinook RDMs  "generally err on the flextop side". I'm wary of the CC designation though


Any more insights or experiences anyone? I'm leaning towards the Unifiber, though there are some reasonably priced RRDs around.

Obviously a Hot Rod would be the ideal, but there seems to be very limited availability in the UK and I am not sure I can justify the premium price for an occasional use mast.

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To be more technical the bend is 63/77 but can often measure 63/78 - 64/78. It rigs better on Goya, Simmer, Ezzy, HSM than North, Sailworks, Severne for example. Test rig one if you can. I believe the RRD is the same. Simmer should be good in theory as should Goya. A classic CC bend would be more like 64/76 which in my testing leave the draft a little too full up high & leach does not open progressively making the sail feel heavy & backhanded...

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Thanks CCRD. That's really helpful.

I'm a little surprised to see Ezzy in your "rigs better" list, as I thought they were 'Classic CC', and scored poorly in the 1 - 10 compatibility ratings earlier in this thread.

Also, when you say you believe the RRD is the same, is that the same as the "rigs better" list or the same as the 'less so' list? I wasn't quite clear.

Thanks again. Appreciated.

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TwoFish wrote:

Thanks CCRD. That's really helpful.

I'm a little surprised to see Ezzy in your "rigs better" list, as I thought they were 'Classic CC', and scored poorly in the 1 - 10 compatibility ratings earlier in this thread.

Also, when you say you believe the RRD is the same, is that the same as the "rigs better" list or the same as the 'less so' list? I wasn't quite clear.

Thanks again. Appreciated.

Ezzy's have different bend depending on size but generally about 1pt closer to CC than the Chinook. The Ezzy sails have allot of seam shaping so they are fairly tolerant.(but also why I don't like them...)

I think the RRD mast uses the same bend as the Chinook & I believe is made in the same factory in Eastern Europe.

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5.9 MILLION VIEWS of this thread!!! HOLY COW!!!

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Geoff wrote:

5.9 MILLION VIEWS of this thread!!! HOLY COW!!!

Huh?

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Jeffrey Henderson wrote:
Geoff wrote:

5.9 MILLION VIEWS of this thread!!! HOLY COW!!!

Huh?

If you look at the Freak Out directory and scroll down the page until you see this thread (Mast list for Super freaks), the column on the right shows that it's now had 6,508,018 million views.

People have looked at this 6.5 million times???

Scrolling further, Rod R's thread on SpeedFreak is showing 12.5 million views!!

I can see a search engine coming up with SpeedFreak for a variety of things, but "mast list for super freak"? I know the SF has been going a long time, but have there really been people looking for the right mast that many times?

Whatever, 6.5 million views, 12 million views of anything is just amazing.

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261 (edited by rod_r 2019-07-18 13:33:18)

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probably 3 million views of the 12.5 million are mine :-)

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Hi everybody
I am quite new to the Superfreak family.
Last year I was lucky to get a used 5,3 SF classic in very good condition and I really love it.
I use an about 10 or more years old Tekkno Sport Channel 90 400cm Mast which is probably constant curve and I think it works very well. I don't miss anything ;-)
Last winter I purchased a Kauli Mast at a special price and there is no big difference to me.
In spring I bought 4,0 / 4,5 / 6,3 - all Classics and all used.
The 4,5 works really well with the Tekkno Channel 90.
I did not have the chance to go out with the 4,0 and could try the 6,3 just once in not so nice conditions (low wind and quite a bit of current).
I used a 430 cm Unifiber C60 constant curve Mast in the 6,3 Superfreak and now i am really not sure if this combination is working.
In addition I bought a 6,7 Superfreak UL a few days ago because I think it might fit better to th 5,3.
Now i am wondering if the Unifiber C60 CC Mast will do it on that sail or if Ido have to look for something better and spent some more money.
It seems like there is no distributer for HSM in Germany at the moment, so it is quite impossible to get a Kauli or Hot Rod Mast.
Reading through this thread, I understand that Neil Pryde masts will do quite well, Goya and Challenger seems to be okay, as well aus Fiberspar.
And here is my question:
Will a Fiberspar Radius 95 Pro in 430cm be worth the Money to get the 6,7 UL or the 6,3 classic running as nicely as the Tekknosport 400cm does with the 5,3 and the 4,5?
Thanks in advance for your help and any advice :-)

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mickbeats wrote:

Hi everybody
I am quite new to the Superfreak family.
Last year I was lucky to get a used 5,3 SF classic in very good condition and I really love it.
I use an about 10 or more years old Tekkno Sport Channel 90 400cm Mast which is probably constant curve and I think it works very well. I don't miss anything ;-)
Last winter I purchased a Kauli Mast at a special price and there is no big difference to me.
In spring I bought 4,0 / 4,5 / 6,3 - all Classics and all used.
The 4,5 works really well with the Tekkno Channel 90.
I did not have the chance to go out with the 4,0 and could try the 6,3 just once in not so nice conditions (low wind and quite a bit of current).
I used a 430 cm Unifiber C60 constant curve Mast in the 6,3 Superfreak and now i am really not sure if this combination is working.
In addition I bought a 6,7 Superfreak UL a few days ago because I think it might fit better to th 5,3.
Now i am wondering if the Unifiber C60 CC Mast will do it on that sail or if Ido have to look for something better and spent some more money.
It seems like there is no distributer for HSM in Germany at the moment, so it is quite impossible to get a Kauli or Hot Rod Mast.
Reading through this thread, I understand that Neil Pryde masts will do quite well, Goya and Challenger seems to be okay, as well aus Fiberspar.
And here is my question:
Will a Fiberspar Radius 95 Pro in 430cm be worth the Money to get the 6,7 UL or the 6,3 classic running as nicely as the Tekknosport 400cm does with the 5,3 and the 4,5?
Thanks in advance for your help and any advice :-)

If you can't get the Hot mast then yes, Goya, Simmer, Challenger, or Unifiber Flex Top, as well as Chinook masts available from SSB in Germany.

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